Problems with Mod X... UPDATE
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Problems with Mod X... UPDATE
So I've been having problems with my car for the last 4 months.
Here's the story:
If say I'm in 4th gear and take my foot off the accelerator and bring the revs down to 2000rpm+- then I floor the gas. I can hear the turbo spooling/engine growl but as I hit 2300rpm+- there is like a flat-spot/hesitation/pause. It happens till 2600rpm+- then you can hear the engine start growling and turbo boosting.
I've checked logs and the throttle is closing big time from 86% down to 36% when the problem occurs. After 2600rpm the throttle opens up again.
When this flat-spot/hesitation/pause happens I see my peak boost does not hit 1.2bar.
So I've changed many things:
New Turbo
New MAF (cleaned it twice after replacing)
New MAP (cleaned once after replacing)
New Throttle body
New Lambda O2 sensor (did throw error code the other but hasn't come back)
I've also changed my induction from the GGR to the DSCI and ran octane as C21 suggested but still the same thing.
So someone suggested loading the older DS files from the UK. Loaded Perf+ and DSCI.
Guess what, problem doesn't happen with these maps.
I would ask DS UK but those okes are clueless and referred me to C21 so I've been constantly e-mailing him with logs and advice.
Don't know what to look into anymore.
Here's the story:
If say I'm in 4th gear and take my foot off the accelerator and bring the revs down to 2000rpm+- then I floor the gas. I can hear the turbo spooling/engine growl but as I hit 2300rpm+- there is like a flat-spot/hesitation/pause. It happens till 2600rpm+- then you can hear the engine start growling and turbo boosting.
I've checked logs and the throttle is closing big time from 86% down to 36% when the problem occurs. After 2600rpm the throttle opens up again.
When this flat-spot/hesitation/pause happens I see my peak boost does not hit 1.2bar.
So I've changed many things:
New Turbo
New MAF (cleaned it twice after replacing)
New MAP (cleaned once after replacing)
New Throttle body
New Lambda O2 sensor (did throw error code the other but hasn't come back)
I've also changed my induction from the GGR to the DSCI and ran octane as C21 suggested but still the same thing.
So someone suggested loading the older DS files from the UK. Loaded Perf+ and DSCI.
Guess what, problem doesn't happen with these maps.
I would ask DS UK but those okes are clueless and referred me to C21 so I've been constantly e-mailing him with logs and advice.
Don't know what to look into anymore.

Last edited by lanley v3 on Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:07 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Problems with Mod X???
It can't be mapping related, dude.
Otherwise EVERYONE would have this issue with MODX. I've been running MODX since who-knows-when and I've never had any issues with the mapping.
It'll be hardware related, but I have no idea what it'll be.
Otherwise EVERYONE would have this issue with MODX. I've been running MODX since who-knows-when and I've never had any issues with the mapping.
It'll be hardware related, but I have no idea what it'll be.
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Re: Problems with Mod X???
Frecky_D wrote:It can't be mapping related, dude.
Otherwise EVERYONE would have this issue with MODX. I've been running MODX since who-knows-when and I've never had any issues with the mapping.
It'll be hardware related, but I have no idea what it'll be.
That's why I put the ??? after the heading.
I've shown logs to Shaun and Prash. Everything looks normal except for the throttle closing.
The other thing is, do others actually look for the fault I'm having. Not exactly. This problem happens under the conditions I mentioned above. Does everybody do exactly what I'm doing you get what I'm saying?
Just don't understand why the stock map, Perf+, DSCI doesn't do it which is my other point.
I've got the DSCI induction, Radtec cooler, full 76mm exhaust.

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Re: Problems with Mod X???
Still doesn't change the fact that it only happens to you.
I'll test it on my way home today and report back tomorrow.
Ask STock to do the same.
I'll test it on my way home today and report back tomorrow.
Ask STock to do the same.
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Re: Problems with Mod X???
Frecky_D wrote:Still doesn't change the fact that it only happens to you.
I'll test it on my way home today and report back tomorrow.
Ask STock to do the same.
STock and I chatted about this on the weekend, and he doesn't seem to have any problems.
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1/4 mile = 12.765s @ 177.7 kph (MODDED)
1/4mile = 13.469s @ 175kph (100% Stock with 95RON)
1km = 241kph (MODDED)
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2010 Focus RS
1/4 mile = 12.765s @ 177.7 kph (MODDED)
1/4mile = 13.469s @ 175kph (100% Stock with 95RON)
1km = 241kph (MODDED)
EX 2009 Focus ST 1/4 mile = 13.6s @ 169 km/h @ Slippery Tarlton
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Re: Problems with Mod X???
Think I'm gonna have a brand new car by the end of it 
Eish, now Ford is suggesting I replace fuel pump, lambda sensors.

Eish, now Ford is suggesting I replace fuel pump, lambda sensors.

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Re: Problems with Mod X???
I'll do a log for you but i still have ob in from the weekend, so things may look slightly different in logs
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Re: Problems with Mod X???
STock wrote:I'll do a log for you but i still have ob in from the weekend, so things may look slightly different in logs
I can wait till you run the ob out. You got my bbm message right?

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Re: Problems with Mod X???
Lanley, pm me your email addy. I will forward you my logs from the dyno on the weekend.
Playa25 wrote:he did nothing at first but when he side kicks started throwing punches from the side

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Re: Problems with Mod X???
lanley v3 wrote:STock wrote:I'll do a log for you but i still have ob in from the weekend, so things may look slightly different in logs
I can wait till you run the ob out. You got my bbm message right?
yeah got your long **** msg

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DS exhaust
Radtec cooler
Eibach springs
RS injectors
IPD
AS intake manifold
Cooling mist WMI
13.69 on streets Sport Compact 3 2011
13.60 [email protected] King of 1/4mile 2012
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Re: Problems with Mod X???
KevSTer wrote:Have you tried putting the stock Spark plugs back
I suggested the same thing while back ...
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