DS and cracked sleeves
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Re: DS and cracked sleeves
nanovapour wrote:Not stationary but obviously accelaration does suffer with sloppy gear shifts, ie - loss of momentum by letting boost drop off alot more.
Miss a shift and free roll for a bit and you have a shorter distance to use maximum acceleration, which will impact your 1km speed.
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Re: DS and cracked sleeves
Prash - C21 wrote:STeam wrote:Im fine with DS map. I considered all sw brands before making my choice. DSCI was the best for me..........power, economy and not running the risk of blowing the motor. And Im enjoying it.
But all this DalaSleeve talk makes me worried. So I had to ask.
Check my sig for mods.......is pump fuel fine to run?
Actuator still in factory position.
95RON is fine
Thanks

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Re: DS and cracked sleeves
nanovapour wrote:Not stationary but obviously accelaration does suffer with sloppy gear shifts, ie - loss of momentum by letting boost drop off alot more.
Miss a shift and free roll for a bit and you have a shorter distance to use maximum acceleration, which will impact your 1km speed.
Never said it wont have an impact, how much is the point.
Look, if you send someone that cannot drive a manual car then understandable.
Prash
2010 Focus RS
1/4 mile = 12.765s @ 177.7 kph (MODDED)
1/4mile = 13.469s @ 175kph (100% Stock with 95RON)
1km = 241kph (MODDED)
EX 2009 Focus ST 1/4 mile = 13.6s @ 169 km/h @ Slippery Tarlton
Custom Tuned by C21 Engineering
2010 Focus RS
1/4 mile = 12.765s @ 177.7 kph (MODDED)
1/4mile = 13.469s @ 175kph (100% Stock with 95RON)
1km = 241kph (MODDED)
EX 2009 Focus ST 1/4 mile = 13.6s @ 169 km/h @ Slippery Tarlton
Custom Tuned by C21 Engineering
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Re: DS and cracked sleeves
Prash - C21 wrote:Bloubul7 wrote:Prash - C21 wrote:Bloubul7 wrote:Prash - C21 wrote:Bloubul7 wrote:Prash - C21 wrote:IvanB wrote:Prash - C21 wrote:Ask for proof that the DS software caused any sleeves to crack. Speak to the owners to get the truth.
DS has been tuning ST's in SA, since they arrived on these shores, including the RS. We hold the majority of the market, not the forum
The name calling is what it is.
1/4mile times and 1km exit speeds (which is not heavily dependent on driver) speak for themselves in 3 provinces.
Framed dyno sheets are nice, trophies are better
Our cars are fast enough, no need to stress the engine to go faster.
That is the biggest load of **** ever.
St's dorn have dsg boss. Ask me how I got into my friend's S3, first time, shaved 1 sec off his time? It is HEAVILY driver dependant.
That comment is for the 1km.
What difference did you make on the 1km ?
Are you really that dom? Surely the driver makes a difference on the 1km. It is still driven by the super fast DSG elbow and not red lining every gear
How big a difference do you assume gear changes make on the 1km?
Next time you run 1km take off from 50m after the start line and compare to your speed from the start line. We'll assume that 50m taken out from the equation was the time you spent looking at your GPS for directions to gears OK.
Your maths sucks as well. If I took 0.5s longer on each gear than you that means I would have lost 100m
OK then, I didn't think you were that useless.
Point made, it is driver dependant.
LMAO, are you stationary between gear changes?
Go try it!!!
Any form of racing is driver dependent off course. It is not as big on the 1km, we have checked this at almost every visit to ODI.
Or even better, skip 2nd second gear and see the difference
Insert Facepalm here. Do I need to draw pictures for you?
Always contradicting yourself, first you said it is not driver dependant and now you say that all forms of racing are driver dependant.
If I have a car capable of doing 260km/h on the 1km run then surely the 100m that I lost out on will make a difference.
But I'm not going to try and argue this point any further with you, I'll rather going home and try and argue with my dog not to lick his balls. Think that will be more fruitful
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Re: DS and cracked sleeves
Prash - C21 wrote:nanovapour wrote:Not stationary but obviously accelaration does suffer with sloppy gear shifts, ie - loss of momentum by letting boost drop off alot more.
Miss a shift and free roll for a bit and you have a shorter distance to use maximum acceleration, which will impact your 1km speed.
Never said it wont have an impact, how much is the point.
Look, if you send someone that cannot drive a manual car then understandable.
So then your argument is invalid as you are making conflicting statements.
You just said how its not driver dependent, yet now it is?



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Re: DS and cracked sleeves
STeam wrote:Prash - C21 wrote:STeam wrote:Im fine with DS map. I considered all sw brands before making my choice. DSCI was the best for me..........power, economy and not running the risk of blowing the motor. And Im enjoying it.
But all this DalaSleeve talk makes me worried. So I had to ask.
Check my sig for mods.......is pump fuel fine to run?
Actuator still in factory position.
95RON is fine
Thanks
Anytime. Will lock this since you have your answers.
Any other concerns gimme a shout or mail me.
Prash
2010 Focus RS
1/4 mile = 12.765s @ 177.7 kph (MODDED)
1/4mile = 13.469s @ 175kph (100% Stock with 95RON)
1km = 241kph (MODDED)
EX 2009 Focus ST 1/4 mile = 13.6s @ 169 km/h @ Slippery Tarlton
Custom Tuned by C21 Engineering
2010 Focus RS
1/4 mile = 12.765s @ 177.7 kph (MODDED)
1/4mile = 13.469s @ 175kph (100% Stock with 95RON)
1km = 241kph (MODDED)
EX 2009 Focus ST 1/4 mile = 13.6s @ 169 km/h @ Slippery Tarlton
Custom Tuned by C21 Engineering
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Re: DS and cracked sleeves
To the 2 Einsteins, learn to read. After that learn to drive OK.
Prash
2010 Focus RS
1/4 mile = 12.765s @ 177.7 kph (MODDED)
1/4mile = 13.469s @ 175kph (100% Stock with 95RON)
1km = 241kph (MODDED)
EX 2009 Focus ST 1/4 mile = 13.6s @ 169 km/h @ Slippery Tarlton
Custom Tuned by C21 Engineering
2010 Focus RS
1/4 mile = 12.765s @ 177.7 kph (MODDED)
1/4mile = 13.469s @ 175kph (100% Stock with 95RON)
1km = 241kph (MODDED)
EX 2009 Focus ST 1/4 mile = 13.6s @ 169 km/h @ Slippery Tarlton
Custom Tuned by C21 Engineering
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