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Burning Kugas

Postby kalevra » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:04 am

Any other FIesta ST owners worried about these burning Kugas? According to Ford its specifically the 1.6T Ecoboost thats prone to overheating. Are the motors 100% identical or not?

http://www.timeslive.co.za/consumerlive ... ible-cause

Cant help but wonder if its time to sell my car.

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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby Stu » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:22 am

Ive never heard of a fezz bursting into flames....
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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby kalevra » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:40 am

Stu wrote:Ive never heard of a fezz bursting into flames....


Yep, me neither. But if the motors are 100% identical then I dont understand how its not a risk for both cars. Unless there is something different on the Kugas?

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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby frozen225 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:23 pm

I read its got something to do with them cooling system, but yes there are a few Kuga's around the country that have burnt
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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby frozen225 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:27 pm

I cant believe that Ford is not doing a recall to ensure the issue is contained
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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby kalevra » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:07 pm

frozen225 wrote:I read its got something to do with them cooling system, but yes there are a few Kuga's around the country that have burnt


Thats one of the reasons I've heard, related to a brittle coolant return pipe or something to that effect. No heat gauge in the car so owners dont know they are overheating :-?

Poor Kuga owners are taking massive knocks on their trade/retail values.

I love the Fiesta but the silly issues with the car (mountings, gearbox noises, etc) coupled with Ford SA damaging their image like this has got me thinking overtime about selling, and I havent even hit 20k kms yet :cry:

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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby r0ckf1re » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:14 pm

There are plenty other factors apart from similar engines that could be causing the cars to Burn.

Ford hasn't sent out a recall, so i doubt they think its a problem as yet, so they haven't confirmed the cause.

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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby kalevra » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:34 pm

Some decent in on Mybroadband forum
https://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread ... estigation

US recalls of the "Escape" AKA Kuga were listed as followed:


Recall Details
On certain vehicles equipped with a 1.6L engine, the cylinder head cup plug (freeze plug) may become dislodged, resulting in a significant loss of coolant which could cause the engine to overheat. Under certain circumstances, water in the remaining coolant mixture may vaporize, resulting in a higher concentration of glycol (antifreeze). A high concentration of glycol could become flammable and, in the presence of an ignition source, could result in a fire causing property damage and/or personal injury. Correction: Dealers will inspect the cylinder head. If the cup plug is dislodged or leaking, the cylinder head assembly will be replaced. If the cup plug is not dislodged or leaking, a wicking sealant will be applied to the plug and a cover plate will be installed over the plug with adhesive.
Make Model Model Year(s) Affected
FORD ESCAPE 2013


Recall Details
On certain vehicles equipped with a 1.6L GTDI (turbocharged) engine, an incorrectly manufactured engine compartment fuel line may develop a leak. Fuel leakage, in the presence of an ignition source, could result in a fire causing property damage and/or personal injury. Correction: Dealers will replace the engine compartment fuel line.
Make Model Model Year(s) Affected
FORD ESCAPE 2013


Recall Details
On certain vehicles equipped with 1.6L engines, localized overheating of the engine cylinder head could lead to cracks, causing oil leaks. Engine oil that comes into contact with a hot engine surface could potentially result in a fire. In addition, fuel lines replaced as part of recall 2012-218 (12S35) may have been improperly installed and may chafe, potentially resulting in a fuel leak. Fuel leakage, in the presence of an ignition source, could result in a fire. Both situations could result in injury and/or property damage. Correction: Dealers will enhance engine heat shielding, cooling and control systems, as well as inspect fuel line routing and replace fuel lines as necessary. Note: This recall supersedes recall 2012-218.
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FORD ESCAPE 2013

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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby frozen225 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:40 pm

FORD SA should take notes
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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby S3rategos » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:59 am

Crazy.... Dont think the fiestas are at risk though..
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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby Stu » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:12 am

some after market software could also result in beautiful flames :lol:
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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby MrMazda » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:19 am

Typical FMCSA policy. When the RX8 was recalled globally, for engine transplants FMCSA's policy was to wait for warranty claims & then replace.
Current: 2010 Mazda 6 Active, 2002 Bantam B3 1300, 2010 Sirion 1.3.
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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby frozen225 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:53 am

MrMazda wrote:Typical FMCSA policy. When the RX8 was recalled globally, for engine transplants FMCSA's policy was to wait for warranty claims & then replace.


Thats so pathetic
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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby MrMazda » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:56 am

frozen225 wrote:
MrMazda wrote:Typical FMCSA policy. When the RX8 was recalled globally, for engine transplants FMCSA's policy was to wait for warranty claims & then replace.


Thats so pathetic


Add the fact that they watched service history like hawks and refused claims where the cars were not serviced at the right intervals = every 10 000 km.
Current: 2010 Mazda 6 Active, 2002 Bantam B3 1300, 2010 Sirion 1.3.
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Re: Burning Kugas

Postby Jeff_ZA » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:37 pm

another Kuga tasted the fire in Johannesburg today

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2017/ ... ga-inferno

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