Advice for Planned Performance Mods

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Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Kaiwen26 » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:38 pm

Undertaken the project to mod my MK7 Fiesta Titanium and considering the following performance mods

1. Powerflow freeflow exhaust system
2. Performance air filter / alternative (example: J1 air intake)
3. For performance tuning I am looking at a minor engine upgrade: Steve Wyndham or Celtic Tuning

Comments on the engine upgrade? which is preferable or best gain for bucks spent

Also compatability of the upgrades with the exhaust and air filter/intake changes?

I know many factors play a role in this right down to exhaust pipe diameter hence the much needed advice or direction to begin looking

On pure paper/ reading Celtic boast a bigger gain than advertised by SWR but in combination with other upgrades I see potential to hurt performance

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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby r0ckf1re » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:44 pm

To be honest, if your car is NA, then no amount of money spent will be worth the gain.

For sportiness, do the exhaust... will go better and sound nice. Other than that, I don't suggest you spend any money on performance mods.
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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Kaiwen26 » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:47 pm

r0ckf1re wrote:To be honest, if your car is NA, then no amount of money spent will be worth the gain.

For sportiness, do the exhaust... will go better and sound nice. Other than that, I don't suggest you spend any money on performance mods.


excuse my noobness....... NA??

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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby in10sive » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:50 pm

Naturally Aspirated (not a turbo car) - agree with r0ckf1re, do the zorst the rest won't be worth the money vs gains imo.
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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Kaiwen26 » Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:20 pm

Thanks for the info

Sounds like custom design to suit MK7 zorst it is then

Altho on that note if gains advertised by Celtic are accurate a +14 Kw is decent gain

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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby LinuX MAN » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:59 pm

If you even considering an engine upgrade. Rather buy a fiesta ST. Instead of spending cash on not much gains. Seen this before. Good luck though!
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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Heisenberg » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:50 am

all depends on what you want from the car and how much you are willing to spend...

I was in the same boat ages ago with my 1.6 MK6 and ended up buying a MK6 ST, because you have to remember you will then get ST brakes, ST suspension, ST looks, ST features, ST power, ST wheels etc etc

unless the car is paid and worth nothing, I dont suggest modifying it past exhaust and cone filter. Also remember, with a free flow exhaust it might be harder to sell (at least privately) since people dont generally buy the 1.6 for its performance - they want reliability so starting it up and getting the feeling that it has been ragged wont help your case.
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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Boolee » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:04 pm

I wouldn't spend money modding a NA fiesta.if you really have to, do a decat and a cone filter. it will sound a little sportier, but that's about as much as you'll get out of the car.
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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Eon » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:03 pm

If I were you, I'd get the SWR branch, decat and 50mm free flow exhaust.
Aftermarket replacement airfilters are around R500 and would also aid breathing.
Also, you won't need any software alterations after the above mods.

I've seen some pretty impressive torque gains with branch and decat only.
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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Kaiwen26 » Wed May 20, 2015 2:13 pm

Thanks to all above for the input

I am only considering the air filter & exhaust to complete the performance enhancement

Eon wrote:If I were you, I'd get the SWR branch, decat and 50mm free flow exhaust.
Aftermarket replacement airfilters are around R500 and would also aid breathing.
Also, you won't need any software alterations after the above mods.

I've seen some pretty impressive torque gains with branch and decat only.


@Eon: by this you mean only the SWR branch and not including the chip component?

As part of the exhaust change, ive stumbled onto the MK7 Zetec system by Cobra Sport - Albeit too expensive for import, the sound is awesome and doesnt have that "popping" noise that i hear on other systems. This is the kind of crisp grunt Id look for by building a system locally (perhaps someone understands what in the system does this)

Also I see alot of cat-back or decat systems on offer (here above a decat is suggested). What would be advantage of one over the other?

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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Cornel » Wed May 20, 2015 2:18 pm

mine pops...
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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Kiewiet24 » Wed May 20, 2015 3:34 pm

Spending money on a NA is a waste of time. Best bang for buck is a 50Hp Nos kit. :D

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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Ruff » Wed May 20, 2015 3:45 pm

Kiewiet24 wrote:Spending money on a NA is a waste of time. Best bang for buck is a 50Hp Nos kit. :D


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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby Kaiwen26 » Wed May 20, 2015 4:56 pm

Ruff wrote:
Kiewiet24 wrote:Spending money on a NA is a waste of time. Best bang for buck is a 50Hp Nos kit. :D


^^^
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Hahaha :lol: My next buy will definately be a turbo Ford, but for now this is for me to build my own unique Fezz, mostly doing cosmetic changes hence why at least will do a zorst to add some grunt

Cornel wrote:mine pops...


Maybe popping is not exactly the correct wording, perhaps more like artificial backfire under compression so doesnt sound nice and smooth

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Re: Advice for Planned Performance Mods

Postby leon » Wed May 20, 2015 7:04 pm

It really is up to the nature of the engine and how you use it. 2.4litre NA F1 engines made 800 odd horse. I remember my 88kW Mazda EGi made 125WkW after a stage 4 cam, head shim, full branch zorst and intake. It was a biatch to drive though because it would only get on the cam at 4500rpm. But then you could kick Shadowlines and SuperBosses into touch.....
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